no!!! listen to this bro , bro pak fa is going to come in during 2017-2018 production i mean yes 2030 would be probably where we get 3-4 squadrons of it . But we dont need mig's we have: SU 30 MKI MIG 29 UPG MIRAGE 2000 MIG 27 (EUROFIGHTER/RAFALE) MIG 21 OUR JAGS OR SHAMSERS THEN WHAT ELZZZZ…… OHH YES OUR AWACS , MARS(MID AIR REFUEL)
AND WE HAVE STATE OF ART CRUISE MISSILES SO DONT PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS BUB
we also have naval air arm = harriers , mig 29 k and herons we will also have our own aura ucav dont even get me started on the army…………
and 2nd thing to EVERYONE : why is the engine nozzle similar to the stealthy nozzle on f22 raptor is that how the hal fgfa will differ will it be more stealthy???????
@anon 7:36 yes yes we will put you in those migs then you can save the country ok??? Stop being so annoyingly pessimistic…. Can't you atleast get your facts right??? The AMCA itself is scheduled to be inducted around 2025 to replace the migs and jags….. so obviously the PAKFA would be in IAF colors much sooner…. besides even if what you say happens….. at least we will have the super su-30, other MKIs, Tejas Mark II, mig-29, mirage 2000V, MMRCA….. Besides if you din't know all the MiG-21s are to be phased out around 2017~2018….. @pics….. these look so awesome!!!! oh and btw will the TVC be 3d or 2d or the MKI type???
@anon 7:36 PM : thankfully not. you seem 2 be of the view that IAF has only Mig 21s in its inventory..please don't forget the mighty Su-30 MKI,Mig 29, Mirage 2000s which also pack a significant punch vis-a-vis China and Pakistan. Besides the PAK-FA, we also have the MMRCA, AMCA programs besides gradually building a credible missile strike force and acquisitions of N-subs. So rest easy, things are gradually looking up now, and aren't so bad..Our "friendly" neighbours also have their own problems- please don't ignore that aspect. 🙂
@ Anon 7.36pm Ummm…. not really. The FGFA will be inducted into the IAF by 2017. By then the MMRCA is expected to enter service. We will also be adding a larger number of Su-30MKIs and LCAs… by which time the JF-17s, F-16s and J-10s will be very much outdated.
@1:58,the JF-17 is a can't have anything else fighter for PAF!It is being touted as the answer for everything by the Pakis.Thye have no choice!The fact is the Jf-17 is an aircraft with not the best of avionics or characteristics.Its adequate but it is no 5th Gen,what to speak of ending up as stealthy as a stealth fighter built from ground up!!!!The Yanks will not give them latest planes anytime soon and the Europeans and anybody else will ask for loads of money for the latest gen of aircraft,which is something that Pakistan does not have.
By the time this is inducted, the western world will have autonomous UCAVs. While the graphics design is nice, the IAF really faces some serious technological hurdles and is going to lag behind badly. They have been too slow to acquire things, case in point being the MMRCA. Also, I don't see what the love affair with Russia is. They are slow, unreliable and big time extortionists.
interesting background in the first picture. Why Santa Monica? (is the IAF threatening Los Angeles) They have enough problems. Maybe over India Gate would be nice?
This thing can fly in 2016, it can fly only if HAL / DRDO / NAL / BEL … and other defense and Government organizations will changes internal structure completely… And have some accountability on DELAY and COST of the project.
These must defiantly reduce lot of red tapes / hurdles / laziness and should introduce more corporate and professionalism.
One more thing is HAL in India is working like a business monopoly … India should start one more PSU or private company with the same business intent as HAL. This will introduce competition…
(example ..
lockheed martin and Boeing in US MIG and Sukhoi bureau in Russia
Involve private companies … (example as NAL and Mahindra aero are working). Then these type wonders are easily
What is a Indian PAK-FA doing over LA ?? Is the Indian AF giving its PAK-FAs on lease or are we getting involved in some gang war with those pesky Mexicans gangs ?
@anon 8:15 quit trolling…. even Australian def analysts agree PAKFA and J-20 are better than JSF….. cold war relic??? Last time I checked cold war relics weren't VLOs…..
Yes, that's it! Satisfy yourselves with pictures, dreams, and artist renderings only. That's the best India can do, really! Doesn't matter that it doesn't have real balls! Just talk, and cock and bull! Keep this up, and I assure you, you'll have your castle in the sky!
PAK-FA will be introduced in 2030 in IAF. Till that time we have to deal both pak and china with the mig-21.
Nice indeed!
no!!! listen to this bro , bro pak fa is going to come in during 2017-2018 production i mean yes 2030 would be probably where we get 3-4 squadrons of it . But we dont need mig's
we have: SU 30 MKI
MIG 29 UPG
MIRAGE 2000
MIG 27
(EUROFIGHTER/RAFALE)
MIG 21
OUR JAGS OR SHAMSERS
THEN WHAT ELZZZZ……
OHH YES OUR AWACS , MARS(MID AIR REFUEL)
AND WE HAVE STATE OF ART CRUISE MISSILES SO DONT PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS BUB
we also have naval air arm = harriers , mig 29 k and herons we will also have our own aura ucav
dont even get me started on the army…………
and 2nd thing to EVERYONE : why is the engine nozzle similar to the stealthy nozzle on f22 raptor is that how the hal fgfa will differ will it be more stealthy???????
I hope the IAF is able to induct this aircraft by 2020 at the very least.
Anyway in my opinion this baby will be far more superior than the J20 which is a total piece of cr*p.
The AMCA will only arrive in 2050 unless private firm's get a chance to be involved.
@anon7:36 Are you trying to manipulate subsequent comments in this post, and make them about China/Pakistan?
Because the blog post above says *nothing* about China or Pak.
OMG…
Anon@7:36:-India have FGFA from 2020 onwards and equipp 300 fighter to deal with both front.
The first pic looks like it is F-22 Raptor. Look at the two engine exhaust shape.
Nice work. Hybrid of F-22 Raptor and Sukhoi T-50.
@anon 7:36
yes yes we will put you in those migs then you can save the country ok???
Stop being so annoyingly pessimistic…. Can't you atleast get your facts right??? The AMCA itself is scheduled to be inducted around 2025 to replace the migs and jags….. so obviously the PAKFA would be in IAF colors much sooner…. besides even if what you say happens….. at least we will have the super su-30, other MKIs, Tejas Mark II, mig-29, mirage 2000V, MMRCA….. Besides if you din't know all the MiG-21s are to be phased out around 2017~2018…..
@pics….. these look so awesome!!!! oh and btw will the TVC be 3d or 2d or the MKI type???
@anon 7:36 PM : thankfully not. you seem 2 be of the view that IAF has only Mig 21s in its inventory..please don't forget the mighty Su-30 MKI,Mig 29, Mirage 2000s which also pack a significant punch vis-a-vis China and Pakistan. Besides the PAK-FA, we also have the MMRCA, AMCA programs besides gradually building a credible missile strike force and acquisitions of N-subs. So rest easy, things are gradually looking up now, and aren't so bad..Our "friendly" neighbours also have their own problems- please don't ignore that aspect. 🙂
beautiful machine….i think IAF made a great decision….however jf17 will end being as stealthy as the pakfa it seems…..
@ Anon 7.36pm
Ummm…. not really. The FGFA will be inducted into the IAF by 2017. By then the MMRCA is expected to enter service. We will also be adding a larger number of Su-30MKIs and LCAs… by which time the JF-17s, F-16s and J-10s will be very much outdated.
@1:58,the JF-17 is a can't have anything else fighter for PAF!It is being touted as the answer for everything by the Pakis.Thye have no choice!The fact is the Jf-17 is an aircraft with not the best of avionics or characteristics.Its adequate but it is no 5th Gen,what to speak of ending up as stealthy as a stealth fighter built from ground up!!!!The Yanks will not give them latest planes anytime soon and the Europeans and anybody else will ask for loads of money for the latest gen of aircraft,which is something that Pakistan does not have.
By the time this is inducted, the western world will have autonomous UCAVs. While the graphics design is nice, the IAF really faces some serious technological hurdles and is going to lag behind badly. They have been too slow to acquire things, case in point being the MMRCA. Also, I don't see what the love affair with Russia is. They are slow, unreliable and big time extortionists.
interesting background in the first picture. Why Santa Monica? (is the IAF threatening Los Angeles) They have enough problems. Maybe over India Gate would be nice?
very unsexy like and very 70's in look…. good luck IAF, until HAL builds something worthy.
hey dud!!!
these chines have are copycating every thing.Do you know chinese maal jyada din tak tikta nahi so they have no comperision with our PAK FA and MKIs
And we will get start getting PAK FA from 2017 onward
Nice depiction of PAK-FA catching up and overtaking the LCA program.
Both impressions are of F-22 and not the Su T-50 which is to become PAK FA
The FGFA has amazing range to be flying around Southern California…
Yes looks great…. but…
This thing can fly in 2016, it can fly only if HAL / DRDO / NAL / BEL … and other defense and Government organizations will changes internal structure completely… And have some accountability on DELAY and COST of the project.
These must defiantly reduce lot of red tapes / hurdles / laziness and should introduce more corporate and professionalism.
One more thing is HAL in India is working like a business monopoly … India should start one more PSU or private company with the same business intent as HAL. This will introduce competition…
(example ..
lockheed martin and Boeing in US
MIG and Sukhoi bureau in Russia
Involve private companies … (example as NAL and Mahindra aero are working). Then these type wonders are easily
PAKFA and LCA looks odd together.
What is a Indian PAK-FA doing over LA ?? Is the Indian AF giving its PAK-FAs on lease or are we getting involved in some gang war with those pesky Mexicans gangs ?
Plus, the PAK-FA looks weird and squashed.
rashaped old cold war relic like plane, can't see how relic tech from russians can do it for indians !
@anon 8:15 quit trolling…. even Australian def analysts agree PAKFA and J-20 are better than JSF…..
cold war relic??? Last time I checked cold war relics weren't VLOs…..
cold war relic?
70s type?
are we getting n00b trollers now?
Yes, that's it! Satisfy yourselves with pictures, dreams, and artist renderings only. That's the best India can do, really! Doesn't matter that it doesn't have real balls! Just talk, and cock and bull! Keep this up, and I assure you, you'll have your castle in the sky!
it is f-22 in d 1st pic…..